Thursday, June 23, 2016

MOST TRUE CHRISTIANS GO TO HELL



There is a sharp contrast between three groups :

(1) "PREDESTINED DAMNED" who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, ……EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD (a sharp contrast between those whose names were in the book of life from before the foundation of the world and those who were never written in that book of life )

(2) "MANY CALLED"= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) these are those who were written in the book of life (only these are “the called”) … Philippians 4:3…WHOSE NAMES ARE IN THE BOOK OF LIFE………Rev 21:27;
These are the MANY that are CALLED /ELECT (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,

(3) "FEW CHOOSEN" =Those saints who were in group #2 who are now physically dead. They did not get blotted out of the book of life. the were the FEW that were chosen faithfull.......Rev 3:5. ……; and I will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69: 28. Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous...... 36. The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his name shall dwell therein.)    ….These are the FEW that are CHOSEN……..


Both "FREE WILL" and "SOVEREIGN GRACE" (reformed theology) Folks make the SAME error..They conceptualize two groups only (the saved and the lost) then then argue over the reasons why everyone is in one of those two groups.......BUT the scriptures describe three groups of people and it makes all the difference in the world because two groups only will always create contradictions...

Uhoo…..Time to wake up everyone those are only fairy-tales about a Jesus who loves and died for everyone such that anyone can be saved even ignoring the fact that Jesus taught that most Christians who do come to him will be rejected in the end and blotted out of the book of life ….So the "rain on your parade" is that you had better not get to comfortable in your “Christian walk” and “your church life” and "we got the victory" dance!

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SOME (NOT ALL) OTHER KEY POINTS MADE ARE:

FIRST: Christ did NOT die for everyone., but rather ONLY for HIS PEOPLE/ THE ELECT/ “THE CALLED and is the whole point and reason for:

 Limited atonement is true and the whole point to:

2Peter 2:20. THE LATTER END IS WORSE WITH THEM THAN THE BEGINNING. …

Heb 10:26. .: 29. OF HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, SHALL HE BE THOUGHT WORTHY, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and hath COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, WHEREWITH HE WAS SANCTIFIED, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

………….. if Christ blood was shed for all men living on planet earth even those who would never came to Christ in the first place, they too would have trodden under foot the son of God and counted that blood of his covenant (which was shed for them also presumably) an unholy thing. But the fact is there is a difference between those who were purchased with that blood and latter reject it and those who were never purchased with that blood. They are worse off because they did something the damned had not done which is to treat the blood that bought them with spite…This blood is not for everyone it is only for those that are called and everyone is not called. This is also why they can and most are blotted OUT of the book of Life (The names are written in it before the foundation of the world) If everyone living on planet earth had been purchased with the blood of Christ or if Christ had died for everyone on planet earth then there would be no difference in the blood of Christ for the saint who reprobates and the sinner who never comes to Christ because both would have treated the blood of Christ spitefully.

MARK 14:24.  And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for MANY. ( not everyone; also note: “MANY are called few are choosen”)

God does not call everyone and some people were NEVER “called” and NEVER written in the book of life....only those who God “CALLED”/the elect can be blotted out of the book of life....

                                       
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 -God does NOT love everyone scripture point blank mentions people God hates not just the sin he hated them before they ever did any good or evil; many were created for damnation

-Jesus did NOT die for every person who has or will ever live and those teaching the nonsense that he did have absolutely no business teaching or preaching

-There is the world that “God so loved” and there is the world that God hates!.... It not the roman world or the world of the Maya but the WORLD spoken of in the law and prophets .....oh yea That world!?!

- The fact that some were destined for damnation and some were selected to be saved is what the doctrine of ELECTION IS!?! God could have done things differently (you could have been born at a different time and place and or the method could have been different; Unless of course you think you are so inherently good that you would be a follower of Christ no matter what your circumstances could possibly have been; that would be hubris of the greatest magnitude. Mat 11:21 et al) and gotten a completely different set of “saved folks” then the set he has Chosen so When God selected how he was going to do things and knowing the outcome before hand (by name who would be saved and who would be damned) then HE not you decided who would and would not be saved and who would just be damned period without any hope. 

Any and all arguments that pretend a dichotomy between the method of salvation or the way of salvation verses Who would and would not be saved (by name) are non-sequiturs. Both are mutual imperatives they are not mutually exclusive. The fact that some were destined for damnation and some were selected to be saved is what the doctrine of ELECTION IS!?! God could have done things differently (you could have been born at a different time and place and or the method could have been different; Unless of course you think you are so inherently good that you would be a follower of Christ no matter what your circumstances could possibly have been; that would be hubris of the greatest magnitude. Mat 11:21 et al) and gotten a completely different set of “saved folks” then the set he has Chosen so When God selected how he was going to do things and knowing the outcome before hand (by name who would be saved and who would be damned) then HE not you decided who would and would not be saved and who would just be damned period without any hope. Grasping this fully requires a certain kind of humility that goes well beyond just the fact your “really sweet old man/women who would not hurt a flee”.

...........................YOU CANNOT DETERMINE WITHOUT FOREKNOWING and likewise YOU CANNOT FOREKNOW ALL POSSIBILITIES AND CHOOSE ONE PATH WITHOUT HAVING DETERMINED ALL. They are not mutually exclusive logically they cannot be. One is subordinate to the other and this is the point to the INDIVIDUALS NOT GROUPS addressed and used as examples here in:

Rom 9: 11. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God ACCORDING TO ELECTION might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) …… 13. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated……15. For he saith to Moses, I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I WILL HAVE MERCY, and I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I WILL HAVE COMPASSION. 16. So then it is NOT OF HIM THAT WILLETH, NOR OF HIM THAT RUNNETH, …. 17. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.. 18. THEREFORE HATH HE MERCY ON WHOM HE WILL HAVE MERCY, AND WHOM HE WILL HE HARDENETH. 19. Thou wilt say then unto me, WHY DOTH HE YET FIND FAULT? FOR WHO HATH RESISTED HIS WILL? 20. Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21. Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22. What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering THE VESSELS OF WRATH FITTED TO DESTRUCTION……..

The word fitted to destruction here does not mean fit or deserving of destruction NO it means CREATED FOR DESTRUCTION! Prov 16:4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, EVEN THE WICKED FOR THE DAY OF EVIL.………………Job 21:30. That THE WICKED IS RESERVED TO THE DAY OF DESTRUCTION? they shall be brought forth to THE DAY OF WRATH.

The fact that some were destined for damnation and some were selected to be saved is what the doctrine of ELECTION IS!?! God could have done things differently …………..(You could have been born at a different time and place and or the method could have been different; Unless of course you think you are so inherently good that you would be a follower of Christ no matter what your circumstances could possibly have been; that would be foolish hubris of the greatest magnitude. Mat 11:21 God decided when those people were born and or when Christ would manifest himself to others not the people of Sodom…if only they had been born latter or Christ earlier but alas they were lost)

…………….God could have done things differently and gotten a completely different individual named “saved folks” then the individuals he has Chosen to save. So When God selected how he was going to do things and knowing the outcome before hand ……….(by individual name who would be saved and who would be damned but otherwise could have been saved) ………then God not man decided and choose who would and would not be saved (BY INDIVIDUAL NAME) and who would just be damned period without any hope that otherwise could have been saved if only the situation had been a little different. Grasping this fully requires a certain kind of humility that goes well beyond just the fact your “really sweet old man/women who would not hurt a flee”.

Those that deny individual predestination should expect to find themselves on the “HELL FIRE” end of that predestination program and plan that God is working even now…...
Also at that same site you can get updated alternate versions of the parallel passages charts also


There is a contrast between the world that God so loved and there is the World that God HATES......It not the roman world or the world of the Maya or the world in your head......but the WORLD spoken of in the law and prophets in God's head .....oh yea That world!?!